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Everything,Diminished

Every other page here argues with a number the franchise printed. This one cannot, because Dark Souls prints almost nothing: its lore lives in item descriptions, which is `stated` evidence by definition — a paragraph on a sword, written by nobody, about something you did not see. What the games show you is a fight, and the fight is always against a diminished version. Gwyn sundered the dragons in an age you never visit. What you kill is what was left.

The short answer

Gwyn, Lord of Cinder, at the peak the games refuse to show you — the god who found the lord soul, took the First Flame and broke the everlasting dragons with it. What you actually fight is a hollowed husk who has been feeding himself to a fire for an age, and who dies to one undead with a sword. He is also, in the only figure the game puts on him, worth twenty thousand souls, or forty thousand if you sell him to a snake.

Continuity

Crowd ranking opens once enough matchups are in. Until then this is the evidence column alone — 36 ranked entries, argued from 41 citations.

Rank 23 and below carry a name, its tags and its sources, and no paragraph. Not a lower standard of evidence — every one of them still cites — but a different amount of prose, kept where the disagreement is.

Key to the marks on each entry

shown
depicted on page or screen
stated
asserted by a character or narrator
scaled
inferred by comparison — the weakest
contested
a placement people argue over
off-scale
listed, unranked, and not votable
EvidenceCrowdΔ
Tier 00 · not on the scale

Never in the room

Known by what they left behind, or by what everyone is doing to stop them waking. None of them is a fight, and the rest of this page is downstream of all of them — which is the strongest possible argument for not giving them a number.

00.1––·

The Furtive PygmySo easily forgotten — ds1

Dark SoulsgamecontestedOff-scale
KillsNo confirmed kills.

One line of the opening narration and then nothing, ever. The Pygmy found the Dark Soul while the others were taking fire and light, and every human in the series carries a fragment of it — which makes this the entity with the largest footprint and the smallest appearance in the whole franchise. Contested because the identity is genuinely unresolved, and off the scale because there is no encounter to argue from.

  • Dark Souls · Darkstalker Kaathe, the Abyss · stated

    Named by Kaathe as the finder of the Dark Soul and the origin of humanity — a claim from an interested party. — 2011

00.2––·

The Everlasting DragonsThe Age of Ancients — ds1

Dark SoulsDark Souls IIIgameOff-scale
KillsNo confirmed kills.

They held the world before fire, disparity or death existed, and the series treats their scales as the reason they could not be killed until Seath worked out how. They are not ranked because the war that ended them happened before the first frame of the first game: everything you meet afterwards is either a descendant, a corpse or an imitation.

  • Dark Souls · opening narration · stated

    Ruled the Age of Ancients, unkilled until their scales were betrayed. — 2011

00.3––·

The Old OneAsleep, and everyone would prefer it stayed that way — des

Demon's SoulsgameOff-scale
KillsNo confirmed kills.

An entire game spent not fighting it. The Old One is woken by the soul arts, and the colourless fog that follows takes Boletaria and everyone in it — a demon old enough that the game treats it as weather rather than an opponent. You reach it at the end and the act available to you is a decision about whether it goes back to sleep. Unranked because the game never offers a fight, and the refusal says more than a boss would have.

  • Demon's Souls · opening narration · stated

    Woken by the soul arts; the colourless fog that follows consumes Boletaria. — 2009

Tier 01 · apex

Founding acts

Each of these took something that was not theirs or woke something that should have been left alone, and every age these games are set in is the result. Named for what they did rather than what they are, because the worlds do not share a cosmology and the acts rhyme anyway.

01––·

Gwyn, Lord of CinderTwenty thousand souls — ds1

Dark Soulsgame
  • Gwyn, at the foundingthe war on the dragons, and the age it opened
  • Lord of Cinderwhat is left after linking the fire — the only version you fight
KillsNo confirmed kills.

He ended an age. Gwyn took a lord soul from the First Flame, made war on the everlasting dragons with lightning they had no answer to, and then — when the fire began to fade — fed himself into it to hold the Age of Fire open past its natural end. Ranked first at that peak. What the game gives you is the other end of the story: a burning husk with no dialogue, priced by the game at twenty thousand souls.

  • Dark Souls · opening narration · stated

    Takes a lord soul and leads the war that ends the Age of Ancients. — 2011

  • Dark Souls · Kiln of the First Flame · shown

    Fought as a hollowed Lord of Cinder; his soul is worth 20,000, or 40,000 sold to Frampt. — 2011

02––·

Gravelord NitoThe first of the dead — ds1

Dark Soulsgame
KillsNo confirmed kills.

Death arrived as a person. Nito's lord soul gave him command over the dead, and the setting is explicit that before the First Flame there was no disparity and therefore no dying — which makes him less a god of death than its author. Second because his contribution was structural and Gwyn's was a war.

  • Dark Souls · opening narration · stated

    One of the four who took lord souls; commands the dead thereafter. — 2011

03––·

The Witch of IzalithBed of Chaos — ds1

Dark Soulsgame
  • The Witch of Izalithone of the four lord souls, before the attempt
  • The Bed of Chaoswhat the attempt left — the state you fight
KillsNo confirmed kills.

She tried to rebuild the First Flame and produced the opposite. The attempt created chaos and the demons with it, cost her her own shape, and left a thing rooted under Izalith that the series treats as a wound rather than a creature. The only entry here whose defining feat is a failure that still reshaped a continent.

  • Dark Souls · Lost Izalith · stated

    Her attempt to recreate the First Flame produces chaos and the demons. — 2011

04––·

Manus, Father of the AbyssArtorias DLC — ds1

Dark Soulsgamecontested
KillsNo confirmed kills.

Whatever the Abyss is, it is his. Manus's humanity, gone out of control, swallowed Oolacile and reached far enough that the series' other Abyss events are read as his handiwork. Contested because the game will not say whether he is the Furtive Pygmy or something later that grew into the same shape — and the entry is placed on what the Abyss did, not on that identity.

  • Dark Souls: Artorias of the Abyss · Chasm of the Abyss · shown

    His unbound humanity consumes Oolacile and creates the Abyss encountered there. — 2012

05––·

Seath the ScalelessThe betrayer — ds1

Dark Soulsgame
KillsNo confirmed kills.

The dragons could not be killed until one of them explained how. Seath was born without the scales that made his kin immortal, told Gwyn where the weakness was, and was made a Duke for it — then spent the following age trying to manufacture the immortality he was born without, which is where the crystal and most of Anor Londo's worst experiments come from.

  • Dark Souls · Duke's Archives · stated

    Betrayed the everlasting dragons over their scales and was granted a dukedom. — 2011

06––·

King Allant XIIBoth of him — des

Demon's Soulsgame
  • King Allant XIIBoletaria at its height, before the soul arts
  • False King Allanta demon in his shape, fought at the top of the palace
  • The True Kingwhat is actually left — barely mobile, and barely a fight
KillsNo confirmed kills.

He woke the Old One deliberately. Allant took Boletaria to its height, found the soul arts and kept using them until the thing under the kingdom opened its eyes, which is the same founding act as taking a lord soul run backwards. The rest of this page's argument is in what you meet afterwards: the king at the top of the palace is a demon wearing his shape, and the real one is a shrunken thing at the bottom of the world that can barely lift itself and drains your soul level instead of fighting.

  • Demon's Souls · Boletarian Palace · stated

    Used the soul arts and woke the Old One, ending Boletaria. — 2009

  • Demon's Souls · 2009 · shown

    The true Allant is a near-immobile husk that drains soul level rather than fighting.

Tier 02 · the greats

What the ages produced

Children, experiments and successors. Each is enormous, and each exists because somebody in the tier above made a decision.

07––·

The Nameless KingGwyn's firstborn — ds3

Dark Souls IIIDark Soulsgame
  • The firstborngod of war, before the annulment
  • The Nameless Kingerased, allied to the dragons, and the state you fight
KillsNo confirmed kills.

Gwyn's eldest son, god of war, struck from every record for siding with the dragons his father spent an age destroying. He is the only entity in the series to be deliberately erased from its history and still turn up as an optional fight, which makes him the clearest case of these games hiding power rather than displaying it.

  • Dark Souls III · Archdragon Peak · shown

    Gwyn's firstborn, stripped from the records, fought alongside a stormdrake. — 2016

08––·

The Soul of CinderEveryone who ever linked the fire — ds3

Dark Souls IIIgame
KillsNo confirmed kills.

An amalgam of every lord who has fed themselves to the First Flame, which makes it the only entry here that is a plural. It fights through their movesets one after another and finishes with Gwyn's own, and the series offers it as the final answer to a question it has been asking for three games: what is left of you afterwards.

  • Dark Souls III · Kiln of the First Flame · shown

    Composed of all who linked the fire, cycling their fighting styles and ending with Gwyn's. — 2016

09––·

Slave Knight GaelThe Ringed City — ds3

Dark Souls IIIgame
  • Slave Knight Gaelthe old man who asks you for a favour
  • The Dark Soul consumedat the end of the world, after everything else
KillsNo confirmed kills.

He drank the Dark Soul. Gael consumed the blood of the pygmy lords to finish a painting and became the last thing standing at the end of the world — the final boss of everything, fought after every fire has gone out. What he took was inherited, though, and that is what keeps him out of the tier above: the achievement is the drinking, not the soul.

  • Dark Souls III: The Ringed City · Filianore's Rest · shown

    Consumes the pygmy lords' blood and is fought as the series' final boss. — 2017

10––·

Darkeater MidirStill going — ds3

Dark Souls IIIgame
KillsNo confirmed kills.

Raised by the gods to fight the Dark and never told to stop. Midir is an everlasting dragon that has been eating the Abyss for an age, is losing, and continues anyway — the item text is explicit that his duty outlasted everyone who assigned it. The most durable thing here by a distance nobody else is close to.

  • Dark Souls III: The Ringed City · 2017 · stated

    An everlasting dragon raised by the gods to fight the Dark, continuing long after they are gone.

11––·

Artorias the AbysswalkerLost before you meet him — ds1

Dark Soulsgame
  • Artorias wholethe Abysswalker of Gwyn's four knights
  • Corruptedafter Manus — one arm, and no mind left
KillsNo confirmed kills.

The one knight who could walk the Abyss, and he is introduced by having already lost. His covenant let him enter where nothing else could; Manus took it from him, and the fight you get is a corrupted man with a broken arm moving on instinct. Even so, he is one of the hardest things in the first game.

  • Dark Souls: Artorias of the Abyss · 2012 · shown

    Entered the Abyss under a covenant that let him traverse it, and was taken by Manus.

12––·

Aldrich, Devourer of GodsAte one — ds3

Dark Souls IIIgame
Kills

He is on this list for eating something else on this list. Aldrich consumed Gwyndolin and wears him, which is the only successful god-devouring anywhere here and the reason a saint's corpse is fought in Anor Londo wielding a moon.

  • Dark Souls III · Anor Londo · shown

    Devoured Gwyndolin and fights using his moonlight sorceries. — 2016

13––·

King VendrickDrangleic — ds2

Dark Souls IIgame
  • King Vendrickat the height of Drangleic, with the giants' souls
  • The husk in the Undead Crypthollowed, near-mindless, still nearly unkillable
KillsNo confirmed kills.

A king who did the research and lost anyway. Vendrick worked out more about the curse than anyone else in the series manages, took the giants' souls to fight it, and ended up shuffling naked around a crypt with almost nothing left. Ranked on the understanding rather than the state you find him in, which is the same rule this whole page runs on.

  • Dark Souls II · Undead Crypt · shown

    Invaded the giants' land for their souls and hollowed afterwards. — 2014

14––·

The Maiden in BlackThe only one who can undo it — des

Demon's Soulsgame
KillsNo confirmed kills.

A demon working against the thing that made her, and the only entity across either setting who can reverse a founding act — she lulls the Old One back into sleep, which is the game's resolution and the one time anything on this page gets put back. Ranked on that rather than on force. She does not fight unless you insist, and killing her is a choice the game lets you regret.

  • Demon's Souls · the Nexus · shown

    Lulls the Old One back into sleep as the game's resolution. — 2009

Tier 03 · everyone else you'd name

Walls with a health bar

Bosses, mostly, and the player goes through all of them on the way to somewhere else.

15––·

Pontiff SulyvahnIrithyll — ds3

Dark Souls IIIgame
KillsNo confirmed kills.

He took a city and made it a cult. Sulyvahn installed Aldrich as a devourer, imprisoned Yorshka, and rebuilt Irithyll around himself — the highest-ranked entry here whose power is entirely political and who has no divine inheritance at all.

  • Dark Souls III · Irithyll of the Boreal Valley · stated

    Rules Irithyll, elevated Aldrich, and imprisoned Gwyndolin's sister. — 2016

16––·

Lorian and LothricThe prince who refused — ds3

Dark Souls IIIgame
KillsNo confirmed kills.

Bred specifically to link the fire, and the only heir in the series who simply declined. Lothric's refusal is the reason Dark Souls III has a plot; his brother took a demon's curse to stay with him and carries him on his back through the fight.

  • Dark Souls III · Grand Archives · shown

    Raised to link the First Flame and refuses; fought together with Lorian. — 2016

17––·

NashandraA fragment of Manus — ds2

Dark Souls IIgame
KillsNo confirmed kills.

A piece of Manus's soul that became a queen. Nashandra married Vendrick, steered Drangleic into the war that ruined it, and is the series' clearest case of the Abyss operating by persuasion rather than force.

  • Dark Souls II · 2014 · stated

    One of the fragments of Manus's soul; manipulates Vendrick and Drangleic.

18––·

Sister FriedeAriandel — ds3

Dark Souls IIIgame
KillsNo confirmed kills.

She held a world in stasis by refusing to let it burn. Friede's project is keeping the painted world rotting rather than allowing the fire that would let it be repainted, and the fight is three phases of her declining to accept that she has lost.

  • Dark Souls III: Ashes of Ariandel · 2016 · shown

    Prevents the burning of the painted world, fought across three successive phases.

19––·

Dark Sun GwyndolinAnor Londo's last god — ds1

Dark SoulsDark Souls IIIgame
KillsNo confirmed kills.

The only one of Gwyn's children still doing the job. Gwyndolin held Anor Londo together with an illusion for an entire age after everyone else had gone, which is a longer tenure than any other god in the series manages — and it ends with him being eaten by an entry twelve places above him.

  • Dark Souls · Anor Londo · shown

    Maintains the illusion of Anor Londo and its sun long after the gods have left. — 2011

20––·

Crossbreed PriscillaThe Painted World — ds1

Dark Soulsgamecontested
KillsNo confirmed kills.

Exiled into a painting for what she is rather than anything she did, and the one boss in the first game who asks you to leave instead of fighting. Contested because her lifehunt is described as dangerous enough to justify the exile and is never demonstrated at scale — the entry is ranked on the exile, which is at least a thing that happened.

  • Dark Souls · Painted World of Ariamis · shown

    Sealed into the painting; possesses the lifehunt, and is hostile only if attacked. — 2011

21––·

Ornstein and SmoughThe gate — ds1

Dark Soulsgame
KillsNo confirmed kills.

Two of Gwyn's household, still guarding a cathedral for a god who left an age ago and a princess who may not exist. They are ranked as one entry because the game ranks them as one encounter, and because whichever survives absorbs the other — the series' most literal statement that these are leftovers being consumed to keep something going.

  • Dark Souls · Anor Londo · shown

    Fought as a pair; the survivor absorbs the other's power on its death. — 2011

22––·

The Fume KnightRaime — ds2

Dark Souls IIgame
KillsNo confirmed kills.

A knight who walked away from Drangleic and spent the rest of his life guarding Nadalia, a fragment of Manus, in a tower nobody visits. Last of the argued entries because his record is entirely martial: no age ended, no city fell, and he is still widely held to be the hardest fight in his own game.

  • Dark Souls II: Crown of the Old Iron King · 2014 · shown

    Fought at the foot of Brume Tower; wearing Velstadt's Helm into the arena skips him to his second phase.

23––·

FlamelurkerStonefang — des

Demon's Soulsgame
  • Demon's Souls · Stonefang Tunnel · shown

    A demon left in the mines, fought with no gimmick and no exploitable weakness. — 2009

24––·

The Old MonkWears whoever answers — des

Demon's Soulsgame
  • Demon's Souls · Tower of Latria · shown

    Takes a host to fight in its place, pulling in another player where the connection allows. — 2009

25––·

Sif, the Great Grey WolfArtorias's companion — ds1

Dark Soulsgame
  • Dark Souls · Darkroot Garden · shown

    Guards Artorias's grave with his greatsword. — 2011

26––·

Havel the RockBishop — ds1

Dark Soulsgame
  • Dark Souls · 2011 · stated

    One of Gwyn's old battle companions; his hammer is cut from a dragon's tooth and his armour from stone.

27––·

Hawkeye GoughBrought down a dragon — ds1

Dark Soulsgame
  • Dark Souls: Artorias of the Abyss · 2012 · shown

    Fires the arrow that brings down Kalameet, blinded and long retired.

28––·

Black Dragon KalameetOptional — ds1

Dark Soulsgame
  • Dark Souls: Artorias of the Abyss · 2012 · shown

    Must be grounded by Gough's arrow before he can be fought at all.

29––·

Lord's Blade CiaranGwyn's assassin — ds1

Dark Soulsgame
  • Dark Souls: Artorias of the Abyss · 2012 · stated

    One of Gwyn's four knights, tasked with assassination rather than open battle.

30––·

Yhorm the GiantLord of Cinder — ds3

Dark Souls IIIgame
  • Dark Souls III · 2016 · stated

    A Lord of Cinder who ruled Profaned Capital and left a weapon designed to kill him.

31––·

Champion GundyrArrived too late — ds3

Dark Souls IIIgame
  • Dark Souls III · 2016 · stated

    Came to link the fire and found the age already over.

32––·

Dancer of the Boreal ValleyIrithyll — ds3

Dark Souls IIIgame
  • Dark Souls III · 2016 · stated

    Given to Pontiff Sulyvahn's service and altered by it.

33––·

Oceiros, the Consumed KingLothric — ds3

Dark Souls IIIgame
  • Dark Souls III · 2016 · shown

    Pursued Seath's research into dragonhood until it took his mind.

34––·

Velstadt, the Royal AegisVendrick's knight — ds2

Dark Souls IIgame
  • Dark Souls II · 2014 · shown

    Followed Vendrick into the Undead Crypt and never left it.

35––·

Maiden AstraeaWould not fight — des

Demon's Soulsgamecontested
  • Demon's Souls · Valley of Defilement · shown

    A demon who protects the outcasts and never attacks; Garl Vinland fights in her place. — 2009

36––·

The Storm KingNeeds the sword — des

Demon's Soulsgame
  • Demon's Souls · Shrine of Storms · shown

    Effectively untouchable until the Stormruler is recovered, and killed with it immediately after. — 2009

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